TAG Heuer Grand Carrera Calibre 36 RS

Posted by: DC   |   2 May 2010   |   44 Comments  

As has been stated  here at Calibre 11 previously, the pick of the current TAG Heuer range in my eyes is the Grand Carrera Calibre 36 RS- the top of the successful Grand Carrera range featuring the El Primero movement.

What distinguishes the Calibre 36 Caliper from other models in the Grand Carrera range is the Caliper system, an ingeniously simple way of allowing the chronograph to display 1/10th second accuracy. The Calibre 36 movement has always been able to achieve 1/10th second accuracy, but the challenge has always been how to show this fraction of time on the dial.

Zenith now have their own El Primero watch with 1/10th accuracy (The El Primero Foudroyante), but TAG Heuer did it first, unveiling the Calibre 36 Grand Carrera as a concept watch at Basel in 2008.

The Grand Carrera Calibre 36 set new price boundaries for a TAG Heuer watch (RRP at close to USD9,000) and so I was keen to review one to see if the premium is justified and whether the watch lived up to expectations

The TAG Heuer Grand Carrera Range

Work on the Grand Carrera started in 2004 and it was three years before the watch was released in June 2007. Like many contemporary TAG Heuer models, the Grand Carrera was designed by Christoph Behling. At the time the Grand Carrera was announced there were three models in the range:

  • Grand Carrera Calibre 6RS (40mm case, date at 6 o’clock; ETA 2895/2)
  • Grand Carrera 8RS (43mm case, GMT Function, “Grande Date” at 12 o’clock; ETA 2892A2/ Soprod GMT)
  • Grand Carrera Chronograph Calibre 17 RS (43mm case, date at 6 o’clock, Chronograph; ETA 2894/2)

The purpose of the Grand Carrera was to introduce a premium line of TAG Heuer watches, one that grew the Carrera line into premium price points. From a first glance you can see that a special effort has gone into the watch- the dials of each model have applied hour-markers and TAG Heuer logo, Cotes de Geneve finishing on metal parts of the dial and a new bracelet design with improved fit and finish. Every model in the Grand Carrera line was COSC certified and featured the Rotating Disc system (hence the “RS”) developed by TAG Heuer, which distinguishes the watch from other ETA-powered watches.

We now know that there was much debate within TAG Heuer during its development on what the new watch should be called. The codename during the early days was “Vanquish”, a name that TAG Heuer would use on the limited edition version of the Carrera Calibre 360 in 2006.

Thankfully, enough people- including Jack Heuer- decided that the name didn’t suit the new mode, and so the name “Grand Carrera” was adopted. The rationale for this was that the watch was a premium version of the Carrera- TAG Heuer’s largest selling model. With the benefit of hindsight, I think its a shame that the Grand Carrera name was used, as the watch is special enough to warrant its own name rather than being an off-shoot of an existing model.

Concept Watch

Following the successful introduction of the Grand Carrera, TAG Heuer then announced a special Grade-two titanium version of the watch at Basel 2008- The Grand Carrera Calibre 36 Concept Chronograph. The concept watch took the design of the Grand Carrera series further- a much more “industrial” design with an emphasis on extreme sportiness rather than elegance.

Like the rest of the Grand Carrera range, the Calibre 36 RS uses the Rotating Disc system in place of traditional sub-dials. The disc at 3 0′Clock shows elapsed minutes, while the counter at 6 o’clock shows elapsed hours. On the left hand-side of the dial is a narrow window that shows seconds using TAG Heuer’s Linear System (“LS”)- again a rotating disc that rotates every 20 seconds. From 0-40 seconds the disc shows a black line, while from 41-60 the line changes to red. This means that there is no way of distinguishing between say 11 seconds and 31 seconds- perhaps a case of form over function when combined with a narrow window that can be difficult to read.

The highlight of the dial was the metal bridge connecting the two sub-dials with its Cotes de Geneve finish. From a technical perspective, the key development was the Caliper system, which is reviewed in more detail below.

The watch was released in conjunction with a new concept-car from former Pininfarina designer Ken Okuyama (the K.O 7) which borrowed elements of the dial design for its dashboard.

Reaction to the concept watch was overwhelmingly positive, with the watch winning the Grand Prix d’Horlogerie de Genève 2008 (Ultimate Sports Inspired Timepiece) award. Only one year later, the production version was ready.

Production Model

Released at Basel 2009, the Grand Carrera Calibre 36 RS2 Caliper Chronograph Ti2 (A ridiculous name as Calibre 11 has pointed out before) was almost identical to the concept watch. As well as the PVD-coated Titanium model (CAV5185), there was also a stainless steel model released (CAV5115). The only real difference between the concept watch and the production model was that instead of having three caliper scales, the production watch has just the one. Just like the concept watch, both versions of the watch use TAG Heuer’s Calibre 36 movement, featuring the Rotating Disc System.

Of the two models, it was always the PVD-version  that I preferred, with its rubber bracelet and stealth- looks, it’s a real “statement” watch- but I was to find that view changing as I spent more time with both models.

Case

The 43mm case is beautifully finished- as shown in the photo below which shows the horizontal and vertical brushed finish separated by a polished strip as the case nears the lugs. You have to have the stainless steel version to appreciate this work, as the PVD model has a uniform finish over the entire case. The other aspect of the design that I really like is the finish of the second crown at 10 o’clock- again, standing out more in stainless steel than in PVD.

The other difference between the two models is the tachy bezel- in both cases fixed. The stainless steel model has a smooth finish, while the PVD has a scalloped edge.

Bracelet

The Bracelet on the stainless steel watch is again a step ahead of other TAG Heuer models, with a combination of brushed and polished links, but done in a more subtle way than other bracelets of this type. But while the bracelet looks good, I far prefered the rubber strap option, which better fits the sporting character of the watch. The deployment clasp on the rubber bracelet is also titanium, although some have mistaken it for plastic given its light weight.

Caliper System

As noted, the Caliper system is the key technical development of this watch. Once you have timed an event, you turn the second crown at 10 o’clock, which moves the internal caliper bezel. The crown is rotated until the red tip of the second-hand lines up with the red 0 on the caliper scale. What you’re looking for then is a match between the markings on the dial and the markings on the caliper scale- in the second photo below the best match is at “8″ on the scale, indicating 8/10ths second.

Once you know how to use it, its pretty straight-forward, but I have to confess that it took me over an hour to work out what was going on…maybe that’s more a reflection on me than the watch.

Overall

In summary, I have to say that I loved this watch- although not the one that I thought I would- it was the stainless steel version with the black rubber bracelet which is the highlight for me- the contrast of the black strap and stainless steel works very well in my eyes, while the all-black version just didn’t look as special as I though it would.

The PVD version is the more distinctive of the two and does have the benefit of a lighter, titanium case, but that still wouldn’t be enough to get me away from the stainless steel model. I also think that the stainless steel version will age better over time- all-black models tend to come in and out of fashion…at the moment they are certainly “in”.

So is the Calibre 36 Grand Carrera special enough to justify the premium over the other Grand Carrera models? I think it is. While most of my collection is made up of vintage Heuer watches, the Grand Carrera Calibre 36 is the ultimate TAG Heuer- many collectors love the re-editions, but those are a celebration of TAG Heuer’s past- this is the sort of watch that they’ll be making a re-edition of in 20 years time..a truly modern (I’m trying to avoid using the words “avant garde”) watch that is unique from others on the market.

Yes, the second window is too small and not that functional. No, I’m not 100% sure that I’ll love the metal “bridge” in five years time. Yes, it should have a more unique series name than “Grand Carrera” and a model name that is doesn’t fill an entire page. But despite these small issues, the only TAG Heuer that I could see topping this one is the Monaco 24, a model that is designed with the same philosophy- an “industrial”, sporty look that takes iconic Heuer designs and names into the next century.

For more photos of the TAG Heuer Grand Carrera Calibre 36 RS Caliper Chronograph Ti2, click here.

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  • Lou said:

    Still don’t get how it works. I will try harder….

  • rt19 said:

    Lou:
    In the second photo under “Caliper System,” notice that the hash marks on the caliper scale don’t line up exactly with the hash marks on the dial. Whenever the chronograph is stopped, only 1 hash mark on the caliper scale will line up exactly with a hash mark on the dial. The hash mark that does line up tells you the 10th of a second you stopped the watch at. So in the example of that photo, only the 8 hash mark exactly lines up with a dial hash mark, so that means the watch was stopped at 8/10ths of a second. It’s a rather clever way of doing it, and took me a while to figure it out, too.

    Thanks for the write-up. It’s a great, albeit pricey, watch, but if you want 10th of a second accuracy from a mechanical/automatic watch, you’re going to have to pay for it.

  • rage2 said:

    This is also one of my favorite watches from my collection, it’s the only watch I acquired from just looking at photos, and like you said, I love the stealth factor of the PVD version with the rubber strap. My only complaint is that the Calibre 36 lacks hack seconds. Not that it matters much, as you said, you can’t tell the proper seconds anyways 2/3rds of the time. I do like to sync my watches to atomic time regularly, and I can’t do that with this watch.

    This comment is interesting:

    “From 0-40 seconds the disc shows a black line, while from 41-60 the line changes to red.”

    I thought the red line denotes 0-20 seconds and the black lines denotes 21-40 and 41-60 seconds. I guess it doesn’t really matter.

    Thank you for another excellent article!

  • Lou said:

    rt19, thanks. I finally got it. The caliper bezel is mobile. That’s clearly written in the review, but somehow it didn’t register. I’m clearly in the remedial class!

    Interesting write-up, interesting timepiece. Thanks!

  • DC (author) said:

    Thanks RT19 for the clarification. Lou, there is a short video at the TAG Heuer website (2008 Basel) that is meant to explain everything…I must have looked at it 4-5 times and still had no idea how it worked, so don’t feel bad!

    Rage2, you may well be right about the seconds wheel…if anything it highlights that the seconds feature is there for appearance only, not as a functional part of the watch. I like the idea of the Linear System that TAG use…but does it make reading the time any easier? not in my book.

    David

  • Caitlyn said:

    This is also one of my favorite watches from my collection, it’s the only watch I acquired from just looking at photos, and like you said, I love the stealth factor of the PVD version with the rubber strap. My only complaint is that the Calibre 36 lacks hack seconds. Not that it matters much, as you said, you can’t tell the proper seconds anyways 2/3rds of the time. I do like to sync my watches to atomic time regularly, and I can’t do that with this watch.

    This comment is interesting:

    “From 0-40 seconds the disc shows a black line, while from 41-60 the line changes to red.”

    I thought the red line denotes 0-20 seconds and the black lines denotes 21-40 and 41-60 seconds. I guess it doesn’t really matter.

    Thank you for another excellent article!

  • DC (author) said:

    Thanks Caitlyn,

    I have to confess that I’m not sure about the seconds disc- but as you say, it doesn’t really matter as in practice you can’t use it anyway!

    dc

  • adams said:

    is there exist tag heur grand carrera 36 rs with black stainless steel strap?

  • DC (author) said:

    Hi Adams,

    No, there are three types of strap available with the Grand Carrera Calibre 36:

    - Rubber strap with titanium clasp
    - Stainless steel bracelet
    - Black leather with red stitching

    There is no black steel bracelet that I have seen.

    David

  • adams said:

    Would u believe if i got black bracelet authentic one? i also have doubt…worry seller took original bracelet. Soon i will send my watch to the Tag Heuer Branch to check the originality. BUt my friend who own that shop told me via phone the important is the head of watch. Now i’m waiting him to check it,,,maybe by next week..

  • Hendry said:

    sporty…

  • Elias said:

    Dear lou!
    I’m going to buy this watch but i would like to tell me if it’s worth the price!Personaly i love it!!!Here i live(Greece) it costs 6.3000euro!Please tell me your opinion if it is worth to buy it!
    Thanks!

  • Elias said:

    Sorry,wrong name,i meant DC(author).Sorry Lou!
    I want your opinionDC(author)

  • DC (author) said:

    Elias,

    I’ve been looking on and off for one of these on the second hand market for about 12 months- and you know what? I haven’t seen more than 1-2 and they were still quite expensive.

    That tells me that these are holding their value pretty well, so in that sense, yes, they’re “worth” that price. Having said that, its all a matter of how much you like the watch.

    Anyway, here is what the designer had to say about the watch: http://www.calibre11.com/interview-christoph-behling/

    Cheers

    David

  • a said:

    what’s the price in india?????

  • DC (author) said:

    Sorry- don’t know the price in India

  • Amit Arora said:

    Sexy, Cool & Sporty….

  • martin said:

    how much does the watch cost in canada

  • DC (author) said:

    Not sure Martin- I don’t track prices. Sorry

  • Charlie Boy said:

    I am quite interested in purchasing the all stainless steel version of this watch but I read some place that it was being superseded soon. I can’t find where this was said so can anyone here confirm this? I don’t want to get a watch that’s suddenly an old model by Christmas!

    Charlie

  • DC (author) said:

    Charlie,

    The Grand Carrera has been around for a few years, but no sign that there is anything new coming too soon…but I’d expect some update in the next 18 months, and I say that solely based on the age of the range. But whether that means the GC Calibre 36 would change, who knows?

    David

  • Saqib said:

    Fantastic Watch i have purchased huh ……

  • upendra said:

    I am quite interested in purchasing the all stainless steel version of this watch but I read some place that it was being superseded soon. I can’t find where this was said so can anyone here confirm this? I don’t want to get a watch that’s suddenly an old model by Christmas!

    Charlie
    vare pover model

  • DC (author) said:

    Charlie,

    I haven’t heard any news on a new Grand Carrera. I’d expect a new model in the next 18 months- 2 years based on the usual model-cycle, but I’d be surprised if there is something in the next 6-months or so (But this is me guessing!)

    dc

  • Marius said:

    Am un grand carrera calibre 36,bratara e din cauciuc,are 3 butoane pe partea dreapta…m-ar interesa dc e original…epe spate scrie cav511B,n0 1660448..dupa ce timp sta ceasul dc nu-l folosesti?,si la cat timp trebuie intors?,semirotundul din spate tr sa se invarta toatal sau doar jumatate???

  • Marius said:

    I have a grand carrera caliber 36, bracelet is made ​​of rubber, has 3 buttons on the right side … I would be interested if the original … write back cav511B, N0 1660448 .. time after time stay dc not use it?, And how long back?, screw back live to spin all or only half??

  • DC (author) said:

    HI Marius- doesn’t sound right…but I’d need to see a photo. You can send a photo here: info@calibre11.com

    dc

  • miko said:

    HOLA ME GUSTARÍA SABER COMO PUEDO DETECTAR UNA REPLICA DEL TAG Heuer Grand Carrera CALIBRE 36 CON UNO ORIGINAL Y TAMBIÉN EL PRECIO DE VENTA EN CHILE (PRECIO REFERENCIA)

    MUCHAS GRACIAS.

  • DC (author) said:

    Miko,

    Best way to protect yourself is to buy from a Dealer. There are a few replicas of these watches, but fortunately they’re not very good, so you should be able to tell the difference if you compare the watch that you’re intenidng to buy to the photos above.

    David

  • dave said:

    hi just to check for the automatic needle will it sometimes stop is it normal and i need to press the side button n it will move again pls guide

  • Sheregg said:

    Just got the one with the rubber strap.
    Looks awesome, works perfects , just as any other Tag Heuer piece, but that caliper is something hard to understand. Read through the instructions but, still couldnt get anything useful from it.

  • DC (author) said:

    Hi Sheregg, take a look at the second comment on the post and there is a good explanation..I agree that its not obvious!

    David

  • Yash said:

    Tag huere grand carrera is the one of the best in all watches…. I like it soooo much…. It produces the awesome models and good techniques watch…. I love grand carrera….

  • dave said:

    will the automatic needle everytime stop

  • Jay said:

    Fantastic write up DC, thanks…I was hooked on the black version until I saw your pics and write up. Now I have both versions coming in so I can really decide. It is going to be tough either way I believe. I hope to have them by next week.

  • DC (author) said:

    Thanks Jay- good idea to try both on. As I say in the review, I also preferred the PVD version until I tried on both.

    Let us know which one you end up buying

    David

  • Ian thaiyah said:

    Hey,is there a way i can get my watch cleaned up?or rather polished..

  • DC (author) said:

    Sure- but unless it really needs it, I would leave it well alone…important to get any re-polish done correctly

    David

  • Jay said:

    Hey David,
    Well, I had been patiently waiting for both versions to arrive and the jeweler called me on Friday to let me know that both versions are no longer in stock in their US inventory. Now they will have to come from overseas which will take another month or so. I may switch over to the Monaco 24. I have also seen that you have another great write up on this one as well.
    Jay

  • clodoilson said:

    Hello I purchased a size 36 tag hauer and I can not understand the hours that the display has two left hands black and red, they count the minutes while the right side the hours? As I understand it as the right account the hours and minutes are how many? Thank you!

  • Siddhartha said:

    hello All I just want to know what is price of 36 in India… If any one knows so kindly give me text on my number… +91-9806065331. I hope I’ll have some one’s revert.

    Thanks & Reg.
    Siddhartha

  • DC (author) said:

    Hi Jay,

    Sorry for the slow reply….Christmas holidays and all that..

    Yes, these do appear to be on a run-out sale now, which is perhaps a sign of something new coming.

    - clodoilson: the 9 o’clock sub-dial is running seconds; 6 o’clock is Chrono. hour; 3 o’clock is Chrono. minutes.
    - Siddhartha: Don’t know unfortunately…can the local dealer tell you, or have they run out?

    David

  • James said:

    I own this watch and I’m trying to get a better background of the movement. Is it an ETA development and if so from which line?
    I ask as I’m planning on buying my next watch and don’t want to end up with two with the same motor.

    Thanks for your time david

    Regards James

  • DC (author) said:

    Hi James,

    The Calibre 36 is a Zenith El Primero 400- nothing to do with Swatch Group/ ETA. Zenith and TAG Heuer are both part of LVMH.

    Enjoy.

    David

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